Automotive

Quick Facts: Looks very impressive to me with the on paper stats!  I haven't driven this latest Performance version, but I will say The Tesla Model 3 does handle very well.  It's very heavy, but the mass is low.  The brakes are not very good, the ones on the Performance model are significantly better than the non-performance models though.  It's not the most emotional car to drive, but it's a fantastic cars if you can tune out the road noise, the paint quality isn't very good, and the build quality is below average.  It's also very convenient to plug the car into the electrical mains at home and not have to go to the gas station.  The technology and user interface is pretty darn good (more buttons and stalks would be nice), almost like an iPhone that's a car.  

I don’t see where this is environmental sustainable and why it should be sponsored by public money.
It is just a sportscar for people that would like to appear environmental friendly.
This car is just the summum of hypocrisis or non sense.

But even more people would complain if the government picked and chose specific models for eligibility for tax credits right? So it's no easy solution. But I agree... Why should a high performance sedan like this get public money?

Say subsidy only applies for EVs with up to 150 hp and 200 nm of torque? 😂 That should be sufficient for daily commute right?😂

So why should a specific category of goods be subsidized? Well, it's the same with our tax credits and subsidies for EVs, but then, we Europeans are renown for socialism, aren't we?
Marcus

And it's just so strange that the government only subsidizes the most expensive and unnecessary "high performance version" and not the normal versions.  It's almost counterintuitive.  

But the part about appearances, I fully agree.

Joking aside, these are impressive golf carts - they can go really fast.  They just don't seem to carry a lot of golf clubs.  I really don't like the trunk of the Model 3, it feels small.

Aside from that, I plan to never set foot in that state again.
You are welcomed to join us if you like, date TBD.

Hope to see you sometime! If not, I'll have to come to see you - when the weather isn't freezing and windy blizzard conditions - I am a Californian after all.

And don't think I am picking on your naturally a gorgeous state - I feel very much the same about my own state, Colofornia (as we now call it here), which years ago I planned to never ever leave. But I'll be leaving this state as soon as I can.
Maybe we can meet in Vegas? Plenty of good restaurants there. In fact, are we not due for another IGOTT??

I didn't know things had gotten that bad in Colo-fornia!  

because of cleanliness, low crime, sensible people, low taxes. Californians will inevitably find you and destroy what made that area good in the first place. No offense to Patrick of course

I hear the Texans want their Texas back.

. . . sayin'.

Let's say you compared this to a BMW M3 or Mercedes AMG C63, it's definitely going to have less range. But, it will be less expensive to run, just as fast if not slightly faster, and you can charge it at home. And lest we forget, if we drive an AMG C63 flat out, the autonomy on a race track is probably not great neither. The biggest problem is obviously long highway driving - especially autobahn driving in Germany. So... Let's say hypothetically we want to drive from Berlin, to Dresden (to see Lange) and back to Berlin, I don't think the car can make it on one charge - around 400 km but much of it at very high and inefficient speeds - which would be an absolute pain!

My car only has around 60 KWH, so my car can only do around 240 KM at high speed. And Autobahn speeds can be 200 kph, so, the consumption will go up even more, thus shortening the autonomy.

Probably 30 liters per 100 km? Would that be reasonable for a 5.4 liter gas guzzling engine? It wouldn't last very long at high speeds of 200+ kph, as the tank is only 80 liters! But at least I'd get 200+ kilometers of very high speed driving and if I need to stop for fuel, I can refuel quickly in around 5 minutes or so!

... at less than 90 km/h. The more impressed I was with a guy and his Model S who took part in a "sports" driving training of our national AA. They have a nice course for that not far from my place, some short straight parts, many curves. In the straight parts, the Tesla was unreachable, its acceleartion was out of this world, but in the curves, physics struck back, and my car with some 70% of the Tesla's mass had no difficulties "kissing" the S' rear bumper again. However, nothing can really describe the sex appeal of the AC Cobra with its V8 sound and incredibly attractive a$$ . I glued my Golf R to its rear, just to enjoy that delighting sight and sound.
Marcus

On the Austrian Autobahn, the Teslas drive that slowly?  In Germany, I see them going 200 KPH all the time.  

But normally, probably only around 340 km. And if I drive fast, like around 130-140 kph (our speed limits are rarely this fast in USA, sometimes in Texas they allow you to drive around 130 kph and people push it to 140 kph), probably only around 300 km is my guess.

It'll definitely seem that way!

I’m in the market too.  I just cant put money in that guy’s pocket.